Aurael Drakewing
Shadows of the Dead
Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.08 19:37:00 -
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 Originally by: VanNostrum
Uhhh, easy, fit 1-2 light/med turrets and hit it. BS should not only be large turrets+nos. Even real battleships at sea have variety of weapons to counter different threats, not with giant turrets all over them. Had they equipped giant turrets only, it would be possible to sink them with a torpedo and a zodiac boat.
Removal of NOS will encourage BS to mount small-med-large weapons altogether to counter different threats. A BS with full heavy guns will be strong vs other BS but won't do anything vs small targets. Current state of game is pretty much BS+NOS wars with zillions of ships/modules unused.
Ahh...here's an anti-NOS argument that really gets me. Someone always brings up that "real battleships at sea have many weapons." Well, ya see, if EVE worked like real-life that would be fine. But it doesn't and we're limited to a maximum of 8 weapons on any ship. As a comparison, the armament for a real-life battleship (I used the USS Iowa, arguably one of the most heavily armed BB) (linkage for reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armament_of_the_Iowa_class_battleship)
Main Battery:
9 16-inch naval guns, in 3 3-gun turrets (already 1 gun up on the most heavily armed EVE ship, period, and each gun can be fired individually so there is no twinning. 9 guns = 9 turrets)
Secondary Battery:
12 5-inch guns, in 6 twin mounts (was originally 16 in 8 twins, but the refit in the 80's removed 2. Since they're twin mounts, and evenly distributed, we can say that it's equivalent to fitting 3 Dual-whatever turrets. So we're now up to 12 turrets)
up to 20 quad-40mm AA gun mounts (for the non-mathematically inclined, that's a total of 80  guns, for the one system. For argument's sake, we're going to imagine that EVE puts in a quad-mount for small weapons in large high-points. Again, we're going to assume that these were evenly distributed and say it's equivalent to fitting 10 of the new quad-mounts) OR
4 Phalanx CIWS mounts (automatic 20mm Gatling guns. Nothing even remotely equivalent in EVE (other than the horribly broken defender missiles), and I doubt there ever will be.)
8 Tomahawk cruise-missile launchers (Again for argument's sake, we're going to say that this equates to 2 cruise hardpoints, since the real BS didn't carry reloads for the launchers, and 32 missiles isn't that much in EVE)
4 Harpoon launchers (Assume the equivalent to Assault launchers with precision ammo. 2 more hardpoints.)
So, with all that...if you give me a battleship in EVE that can fit 22 turrets and 4 missile hardpoints, with little fitting problems (26 high-slots total) plus all the normal mids and lows, then and only then can you compare an EVE BS with a real-life BB for your anti-NOS arguements.
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